Although the pupil responses were largely comparable between humans and macaque monkeys, we also found that the overall difference in pupil size between the bright and dark Asahi stimuli was significantly more pronounced in macaque monkeys. In humans, a correlation has been established between the subjective strength of this brightness illusion, as estimated by the participants, and their difference in pupil size for the bright and dark Asahi stimuli (
Laeng & Endestad, 2012). Thus it is tempting to postulate that the monkeys perceive the illusory brightness more vividly than humans do. Nonetheless, we must be cautious with this this interpretation since in the present study, we did not collect the subjective perceptual reports of our human subjects, and we have no measure of the animals’ perceptual experience. Thus, in the absence of established correlation between pupil responses and perceived illusory brightness, we prefer to employ the comparative term of sensing (
Charbonneau, Maister, Tsakiris, & Bliss-Moreau, 2022), defined as basic information processing (with absent awareness) focused on visual sensory information elicited by the brightness illusions and measured by pupillometry. Although it has been suggested that S-cones might contribute differently to luminance processing in macaques and in humans (
Horwitz, 2015), there is no evidence to date supporting the view that macaque monkeys could have a higher sensitivity to (illusory) brightness (
Huang et al., 2002). An alternative explanation might be that the PLR differs between both primate species in the sense that monkeys exhibit greater pupil constriction (dilation) in response to an increment (decrement) of incident light intensity or perceived brightness. However, to our knowledge, there is to date no evidence to support this view either (
Douglas, 2018;
Pong & Fuchs, 2000). Another possibility is that the pupil response to glare is based on the species’ history of exposure to glare; in such a case, one could envision that the classic scenario where the Asahi is a schematic figure of the sun viewed through a canopy of leaves is closer to an experience that is more typical of the ecology of monkeys than of humans. In this sense, the animals tested in the present study were never exposed to experiences of looking at the sky, as in nature, hence it may be that this strong pupillary response is an innate characteristic. Finally, recent work has pointed to the interindividual variability in pupil size at rest as a possible marker for some cognitive abilities (
Aminihajibashi, Hagen, Foldal, Laeng, & Espeseth, 2019) and there is debate about whether this factor might predict pupil responses to brightness illusions (
Sulutvedt et al., 2021;
Wardhani, Boehler, & Mathôt, 2022). Thus we asked whether baseline pupil size for the three baseline conditions could predict the differences in pupil susceptibility to the brightness illusion between humans and macaque monkeys. This looked especially interesting since the only human (i.e., H4) who did not have a main effect of illusory brightness, had the largest pupil size during baseline conditions compared to the other human participants. However, we found no correlation between baseline pupil size and pupil susceptibility to the brightness illusion (“bright” – “dark” pupil size) over all participants and colors (
r = 0.04,
p = 0.89). Furthermore, there was no significant difference in baseline pupil size between human participants and macaque monkeys (two-sample
t-test,
t = 0.12,
p = 0.91), in agreement with a recent work (
Selezneva, Brosch, Rathi, Vighneshvel, & Wetzel, 2021). Hence, baseline pupil size can hardly account for any of the differential brightness effects reported here between humans and monkeys. Also this differential brightness effect might be due to the fact that the human and monkey groups differ in their sex composition (only females in the monkey group and balanced number of females and males in both human groups). However, when considering only the females of both human groups (2 naïve and 2 informed), there is still a highly significant interspecies difference in the brightness effect (two-sample
t-test,
t = 6.56,
p < 10
−5), although there is no significant difference with the human males (
t = 1.93,
p = 0.07). Moreover, previous studies with this class of illusions has not revealed gender differences in either the perceptual reports or pupil responses. Together, these results indicate that the differential sex composition of the human and monkey groups is unlikely to account for the stronger brightness effect found in monkeys.