In a recent study,
Qian, Goldberg, and Zhang (2022) concluded that forward remapping alone would predict either no mislocalization (for decoders that fully compensate for the remapping) or a mislocalization of pre-saccadic flashes opposite to the direction of the saccade (for unaware decoders that do not make any allowance for the remapping)—the latter mislocalization of pre-saccadic flashes opposite to the saccade direction would be the inverse of what is observed empirically. A similar conclusion, following a brief but related line of argument, was reached previously by
Klingenhoefer and Krekelberg (2017). This conclusion would be remarkable, if true, since it would contravene a long-standing assumption in the field. Here, and in our 2023 preprint (
Berreby & Krishna, 2023), we show that this conclusion is, however, not true. When decoded appropriately, classical remapping actually does predict biphasic mislocalization of brief flashes similar to that seen in empirical data (
Honda, 1989;
Honda, 1991;
Honda, 1993;
Honda, 1995;
Honda, 1999). The difference of our conclusion from that of these two previous studies comes from the fact that it is critical to decode (as we do) the population response profile after the saccade when (and on the basis of which) the participant makes their behavioral report. Qian, Goldberg, and Zhang do not specify the exact mechanism that leads from this population response to the flash location reported by the observer. However, it can be inferred from their description that for pre-saccadic flashes, Qian, Goldberg and Zhang use a decoder of the population response (in, say, LIP, FEF, or SC) that compensates for the shift in current eye position between the time when the flash was presented, and when the behavioral report is made. This compensation cannot come from remapping in their scheme, because remapping has already been invoked to produce the backward shift of the population response, which in most models is primarily in retinotopic coordinates (although evidence for hybrid/mixed reference frames in LIP and FEF has been presented (
Caruso, Pages, Sommer, & Groh, 2018). Instead, in their scheme, at least for saccade-based behavioral reports of flash location, some unspecified mechanism allows the visuomotor system to take the intervening shift in eye position between the flash onset and the behavioral report into account, and derive a gaze vector that takes the eye to the same location it would have gone to (based on the population response) without the intervening shift in eye position. This is why in their model, a backward shift of the population response (owing to remapping) leads to backward mislocalization, even though the eye has moved forward in the time between the flash onset and the saccadic report. It is unclear what the physiological correlate of this unspecified mechanism is supposed to be. This discussion may however be moot: the same group has recently put forth, in a preprint, a decoding scheme that overlaps with what we show here (
Wang, Tsien, Goldberg, Zhang, & Qian, 2024a). There is, therefore, no longer a difference in viewpoint between our two groups, as they now appear to agree with us that classical forward remapping can indeed explain peri-saccadic biphasic mislocalization, when combined with an appropriate post-saccadic decoder that operates on persistent flash-evoked activity shaped by a classical forward remapping process. We also note here that we do agree entirely with Qian, Goldberg, and Zhang that when decoders are aware of RF remapping and compensate for it, no mislocalization is predicted.